Why do your teachings have so little effect on us? | J. Krishnamurti

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  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc 5 лет назад +31

    K was the best spiritual teacher the world has ever seen, which underscores just how difficult deep self understanding and change can be.

  • @sirshubhamkumar
    @sirshubhamkumar 2 года назад +10

    "We don't change because we don't want to,simply".❤️

  • @voluntarist3620
    @voluntarist3620 5 лет назад +43

    Everyone wants change, but no one wants to change.

    • @marinejulien5949
      @marinejulien5949 5 лет назад +2

      So obvious !

    • @ganeshramamurthi9663
      @ganeshramamurthi9663 2 года назад

      The common question is: after change what??

    • @angelasiegfried-rossi5034
      @angelasiegfried-rossi5034 Год назад +1

      Cambiato te stesso ...non gli altri o le situazioni ...noi stessi siamo L'UNICO cambiamento in grado di espandere in silenzio e con forza invisibile il cambiamento nel mondo ....❤

  • @huyqpham
    @huyqpham 6 месяцев назад +2

    K's teachings changed my whole life OMG.

    • @girishd5075
      @girishd5075 5 месяцев назад

      Same with me also. It has been a month watching his videos and have been practicing meditation, my mindset, thoughts have changed. I can say it is the start of change in my life.

  • @ismaelousalah4509
    @ismaelousalah4509 5 лет назад +40

    What a man!

  • @adilovesthesun
    @adilovesthesun 2 месяца назад

    He is just simply and completely right..

  • @StarvEgoFeedSoul
    @StarvEgoFeedSoul 4 года назад +35

    I did it sir, it is done ! Thank you Krishnamurti and Bruce Lee ;) it's inexplicable, but it can be done, depends on your conditioning !! You need to understand every word first intellectually, and when you get it, "you" drop everything, the transformation is immediate, like a caterpillar into a butterfly, SIMPLY beautiful :) I want to continue where krishnamurti left and make it simpler, I'd love to give talks :)

    • @dabeezkneez8716
      @dabeezkneez8716 3 года назад +1

      Please start here now and tell me what Krishnamurti is talking about 🙏🏽

    • @ryanbuena959
      @ryanbuena959 3 года назад +2

      @@dabeezkneez8716 When the fruit is ripe there's no effort needed, you simply taste it. Be nothing and then live! Without all this conditioning, ask yourself why you need to do this and to do that? Then there is no answer and then watch that, observe it. There's no end to it. Just like a music. You don't play music just for you to end it with a conclusion you go along the way.

    • @osmanazabol6904
      @osmanazabol6904 2 года назад

      I am observing right now.,all i have to do is to watch, is that right? Is it going to happen eventually by itself then (if i continniue to watch?)? How long does it take you think?

    • @arxhitgarg
      @arxhitgarg Год назад +2

      @@osmanazabol6904 nobody knows. U have to be okay with all that is. And it might or might not happen. U have to be okay with even not being okay. Only then u can be free.

    • @patrick4387
      @patrick4387 10 месяцев назад +2

      What is so hard to understand. He is talking so simple. Dont deny what you are. If you are violent, be violent. If you are greedy, be greedy. Just watch yourself how it arises. At the very Moment of it. Not think about it now when its not a fact. Watch how someone triggers you, fear arises. That fear Turns to anger because your Image of yourself has been hurt. Thought comes in and tries to escape from These Feelings who are actually you. Thought says:" give a smart answer so you wont Look stupid", or "be careful, this Person can Hurt you even more".
      Just watch what is Happening at the very Moment. If you watch intensly, Like you would watch a snake or a Lion that are trying to Attack you. Give it your whole Attention. Then you will discover the reasons for getting angry or greedy or violent. And with that discovery, that you should never Put into words, it stops. But it stops only when you are Aware of it. If you Go Back to your daily state of mindless thinking, the patterns might come back

  • @kaushalkishore6938
    @kaushalkishore6938 3 года назад +4

    I can never hate this beautiful MAN.

  • @100basilmat
    @100basilmat 5 лет назад +53

    "We don't change because we don't want to".Ending of 'self' -'the ego' is impossible because we recognize us as the 'self'. What we really seek is modifications and improvements according to our wishes and conditioning.

    • @mikewright902
      @mikewright902 5 лет назад +3

      @@lungarotta i can see that too one of the major questions is why do I always want to be entertained to answer that goes very deep 🙏there are a lot of pleasures ,more now than ever before in history/ you are right 😁

    • @Papa_Owl
      @Papa_Owl 5 лет назад +2

      Its recognizing the truth of the external reality which is unstable and ever changing. Happiness is always fleeting and we cant rely on that. Its retraining ourselves to abide as the eternal and play outside while having this form.

    • @originalandrewmark
      @originalandrewmark 5 лет назад

      @@lungarotta You are the trap. This is not MY or others problem. It is yours and yours alone. ( in other words your insistence on stating that "we are the problem.." or "we need to listen to K" or "we will only be free when.." is all the work of the biological freak that the self has become. )

    • @mikewright902
      @mikewright902 5 лет назад

      @@Papa_Owl what? Happiness is fleeting?? What is this external force that you talk about??

    • @nikhilamga5631
      @nikhilamga5631 3 года назад

      @@lungarotta No, levels of ego depend person to person and not era to era.

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 5 лет назад +10

    To shock awake your inner-guru, is the only way. K did this for me.

    • @subbannar7319
      @subbannar7319 5 лет назад +1

      Will you please explain briefly?

    • @tanvis4641
      @tanvis4641 4 года назад +1

      @@subbannar7319 observe yourself... How you behave talk and ur responses... The moment you observe you are aware and more you are able to be attentive henceforth.
      The other can tell u to observe but u gotta do it yourself.
      External help can not bring transformation

  • @valdirbergamobergamo5396
    @valdirbergamobergamo5396 3 года назад +1

    thanks for your light and help

  • @butterfly.spirit
    @butterfly.spirit 3 года назад +1

    this question shocked me...autsch! he is the best teacher ever!

  • @manasraj3329
    @manasraj3329 5 лет назад +21

    If you want to something.. just do it .
    Wow nicely delivered.. With expression

    • @popohgu8739
      @popohgu8739 5 лет назад +2

      manas raj
      Yeah Nike liked it to! 🤣

  • @StoryGordon
    @StoryGordon 5 лет назад +3

    Failure to change is on us.

  • @tatapjoel9075
    @tatapjoel9075 3 года назад +2

    "If you want to do something, you do it."

  • @usmajrav
    @usmajrav 5 лет назад +31

    "If you want to do something you do it..." Nisargadatta: "Everything yields to earnestness."

    • @StarvEgoFeedSoul
      @StarvEgoFeedSoul 4 года назад +5

      "So much intellectual complicatedness" drop it sir ;)

    • @xVQxV.
      @xVQxV. 2 года назад

      @@StarvEgoFeedSoul stop imitating

    • @xVQxV.
      @xVQxV. 2 года назад

      @@StarvEgoFeedSoul sir

  • @MrDrpk
    @MrDrpk 3 года назад +1

    What an answer !

  • @ari998
    @ari998 5 лет назад +4

    very profound answer that blow my mind

    • @TomGarn
      @TomGarn 3 года назад

      ... well ... Almost ... ;-)
      Instead of really getting it - one thinks: "He really got it !"

  • @kandarpparekh8338
    @kandarpparekh8338 4 года назад +1

    Nothing can change you, but your own perception.

  • @itsukileo5833
    @itsukileo5833 5 лет назад +1

    Sincere question and true answer. Sincere question is better than pretending that you are understanding.It is good question which start from outside and this question should be given everywhere then you end at yourself that nothing will help you.It is only you who can help yourself and find your own way.
    Truth never change anyone because it is not dictator, controller, or cause assault. Truth is very subtle and needs very sensitive subtle eyes and ears. when you try to tune your radio and when it does not catch anything that does not means truth is not transmitting but problem is in your radio and it has no sensitivity and catching power.
    Work with your radio.

  • @sirshubhamkumar
    @sirshubhamkumar 2 года назад

    "If you want to do something you will do it".❤️

  • @智慧之光-y1t
    @智慧之光-y1t 3 года назад +2

    One doesn't change because one doesn't do it.

  • @arijitganguly7679
    @arijitganguly7679 5 лет назад +7

    First talk of JD i understood and accept

    • @musikmadmusik
      @musikmadmusik 5 лет назад +2

      Awesome & Congratulations that u hung on and kept listening till the time you understood! 👍✌️

    • @bluesage1528
      @bluesage1528 5 лет назад +1

      Should he be happy that you accepted him?...

    • @Ilovecapybara-cute
      @Ilovecapybara-cute 5 лет назад

      good for you

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca 3 года назад +4

    To Krishnamurti, evertyhing is easy, but few have a mind sharp enough to as he puts "work hard" in self awareness. He says one needs a trememndous will, a trememndous work in order to get it. Imagine for a common person ! I think J. Krishnamurti was one of the greatest IQ, or intelligent beings ever. His teachings are true, but very impossible to achieve, but it came very easy for him.

  • @gheorghefalcaru
    @gheorghefalcaru 5 лет назад +27

    OH MY GOOD!!!Is Is there anyone who can really quietly reflect on this? Only 3 000 views?
    This says something to us and about us! No comments are needed!

    • @Skull_iLLuminat0r
      @Skull_iLLuminat0r 5 лет назад

      Calm down brother!this video has been uploaded its been barely one day

    • @okacet9412
      @okacet9412 5 лет назад +3

      JK was always "ruthless". After all who wants to change?.
      If you really want to change, then you have to listen to him only once.

    • @zarkokohucz731
      @zarkokohucz731 5 лет назад +2

      @@okacet9412 Agreed!The imperativ is not "I want to change".The request is "I want to be happy"
      and at last "I want to be happy the way I am!"

    • @lepomirbakic4422
      @lepomirbakic4422 5 лет назад

      @@zarkokohucz731 who forbides that to you?

    • @zarkokohucz731
      @zarkokohucz731 5 лет назад

      @@lepomirbakic4422 Nobody of course.It's not my problem.My point was:When people asks "How to change?"they don't care realy about "change"
      but about happiness.
      In fact they don't want to change - they just want to be happy the way they are.

  • @carlhammill5774
    @carlhammill5774 5 лет назад +9

    I love this question because its correct. The speaker/guru simply doesn't know enough (since he is human also) to give you the answers you seek. Only you can answer your own questions. And the truth of matter is there should be no question asked in first place. Simply be present in your life and enjoy the beauty around you. Its unnecessary to create fictions (god vs no god, heaven vs hell) stumbling around trying in vain to find purpose. Simple being present in awareness removes the need to know.

    • @johnbaker5565
      @johnbaker5565 5 лет назад +2

      Upon accepting that I am ignorant and need and want to change, I am drawn to those who speak in this language. I become a seeker. I sit and listen with mystics, non dualists, and traditional Gurus. I learn that being present is without suffering. I explore.
      In my case the depth of ignorance was so deep, that without teachers, there was zero direction away from this.

    • @johnbaker5565
      @johnbaker5565 5 лет назад +2

      @@balajishankar That may or may not be. Most who say that seeking is the problem were themselves seekers. Then the question rises, would they have come to that conclusion had they not sought answers. Could be chicken and egg

    • @bluesage1528
      @bluesage1528 5 лет назад

      Your comment is a typical comment of a person who is "stumbling around trying in vain", sorry. Ambitious, hopeful, proud, not needing any guru... just as all of us at the very beginning of a spiritual journey... "Simply be present in your life"... Have you tried? Have you succeeded? Only a person who has not tried it honestly can say this. Only a person who is faking it... till a real thirst for truth comes

    • @johnbaker5565
      @johnbaker5565 5 лет назад +2

      almost 30 years later 1000s satsangs discourses, intensives with many of the famous teachers I know nothing of reality. For that I am grateful.

    • @bluesage1528
      @bluesage1528 5 лет назад

      @@johnbaker5565 I replied to Carl Hammil. John, I even did not read your comment, but your comment makes sense to me

  • @4220greengates
    @4220greengates 3 года назад +1

    The mind is not a high state and the ego hides behind the corner, so to attempt to make this transformation into freedom, requires an energy beyond what a person can generate and a guide is necessary to keep one from becoming lost in the underworld of the unconscious.

  • @Ilovecapybara-cute
    @Ilovecapybara-cute 5 лет назад +20

    "You are the problem, you are the trap.. one is caught in this prison, and you have to work, observe.. all of the rest must come from your heart and mind...then you are a total human being"

  • @aryusure1943
    @aryusure1943 5 лет назад +8

    Being "totally responsible for yourself whatever you do". That sums it up pretty well. And don't think he was the only one who said such a thing. Socrates said as much in a different way and in another era. The Buddha said as much also. Many other spiritual figures have insisted about this thing called "free will" which was one of the pillars of Christianity as well. But as K mentioned clearly in this clip, we lack the will to change. Obviously something to think about seriously.

  • @pureintentions7
    @pureintentions7 4 года назад

    Where there is freedom you dont need any God. Awesome..... So deeeeeep.

  • @chuckhines459
    @chuckhines459 2 года назад

    People don't change because they don't want to change.

  • @screwdriver6022
    @screwdriver6022 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this video

  • @SGH-rt6ci
    @SGH-rt6ci Год назад +2

    JK 77k views, T. Swift song 3 B views. That is also answers this question in 2023

  • @salujathustra9905
    @salujathustra9905 5 лет назад +5

    We are making a difference by creating divisions.

  • @ajaysingh-op9vl
    @ajaysingh-op9vl 5 лет назад

    Great

  • @oriundo1213
    @oriundo1213 5 лет назад

    🙏🏼 thanks you

  • @391C
    @391C 5 лет назад +3

    All symbols are but keys to doors leading to truths, and many times the door is not opened because the key seems so great that the things which are beyond it are not visible.

    • @originalandrewmark
      @originalandrewmark 5 лет назад

      analysis is paralysis. K himself addressess your dilemma in this talk, yet you seem to WANT to convey his precision in a flash!
      ???

  • @jongumba4207
    @jongumba4207 2 месяца назад +1

    So if I feel no need to change, what happens then? Then there’s no problem.

  • @MukeshAmbani_Mumbai
    @MukeshAmbani_Mumbai 6 месяцев назад +1

    We need some profit or reward to lure us

  • @munihmuni8814
    @munihmuni8814 3 года назад +2

    Last of the great buddhas

  • @philipplayer6346
    @philipplayer6346 5 лет назад +1

    Das Individuum als Punktwert benötigt die Erfahrung der Transzendenz jenseits des Materiellen. Erst dort lösen sich die karmische Stresse grundlegend. Wir - jeder Einzelne - braucht die Hilfe "der Ganzheit". Die integrierende Verbindung von aktivem Leben und persönlicher Durchdringung: Erleuchtung ist keine Gefühls sondern eine Seinserfahrung.
    Deshalb benötigen wir den realisierten Lehrer der uns den Weg öffnet.
    Wir benötigen die eigene Entscheidung ihn mutig ausprobieren zu wollen.
    Wir benötigen komfortable Routinen um ihn ausdauernd zu gehen.
    Weil: innen wie außen.
    Dann kann der (Pfingst)Geist unsere Seele täglich aufs neue erwecken und unterweisen ...und wachsen lassen.
    JGD!

  • @andreax7122
    @andreax7122 5 лет назад +7

    Recap of the entire video:
    We don't change cause we don't want to
    When there is freedom you don't need any god

  • @thengbon84
    @thengbon84 5 лет назад +1

    We have to asked ourselves what n why we want...

  • @Spiritualgazi
    @Spiritualgazi Год назад

    We don't change because we don't like the unkown. We better suffer in the known than be in the unkown.

  • @pratik6342
    @pratik6342 3 года назад +2

    NOTHING FROM THE OUTSIDE CAN EVER CHANGE YOU.
    IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU DO IT.
    AS LONG AS I ACCEPT ANY AUTHORITY, NO MATTER WHO IT IS, THERE IS NO INSIGHT.

  • @cmanjularao9833
    @cmanjularao9833 4 года назад +1

    K.........❤️

  • @yoppindia
    @yoppindia 5 лет назад

    desire is different from reality.

  • @subbalakshmisubrahmanyam4207
    @subbalakshmisubrahmanyam4207 2 года назад

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc Год назад +1

    Funny, I just noticed I commented four years ago and now my response is different. I would say that he was often too abstract. For example, he would often say that fear is created via thought and time. Ok, now, what is the listener supposed to do with such an an abstract but true statement? Is that statement alone supposed to banish fear? Often he wouldn't show the relevance in our lives to what he was saying. But other times he would give clear examples. You have to hunt around his teachings to really see what he was driving at. If you get lucky you hit upon a clip where he does this and it clicks.

  • @XxChipsxX
    @XxChipsxX 5 лет назад

    Wow

  • @house3721holder
    @house3721holder 5 лет назад +1

    Dear man ...

  • @bebluebop
    @bebluebop 3 года назад +2

    I am unable to relate the question the effect was tremendously uncomfortable for me...the speaker shaken my root and at the same time the teachings help to hold my self firmly and in order 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @Liveasuwish
    @Liveasuwish 5 лет назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @LoguLogu-ii7ml
    @LoguLogu-ii7ml 5 лет назад

    🙏🙏🙏🕉

  • @Tripl3333
    @Tripl3333 5 лет назад +4

    'When there is freedom you don't need any God...'

    • @sTeVe-vl3nh
      @sTeVe-vl3nh 5 лет назад +1

      Tripl3333 then freedom is your god

  • @nexstory
    @nexstory 2 года назад +1

    I have often wondered if the speaker/listener format, is itself a set-up for the marginal impact it achieves. This set-up is caused by the event producers and the redundancy of elevating the speaker above the listners who are then entertained (or not) rather than engaged. I've attended talks by Krishnamurti in Ojai, where after the presentation, we each got up, said our brief hellos to friends before going home. The potential for change, was never with the speaker, but with the listeners who for a brief moment, formed a field of limitless potential, that the event producers had no clue how to harness beyond selling some books by the speaker before leaving the Oak Grove. To send a space ship to Mars has nothing to do with sitting around the campfire and star gazing with Elon Musk, and all to do with forming SpaceX and coming together to solve a host of problems every day.

  • @LawrenceCarroll1234
    @LawrenceCarroll1234 5 лет назад +15

    These videos are interesting, but I find some of his books - especially the “Commentaries on Living” series (3 volumes) - somewhat more helpful.
    Another book about (not authored by) Krishnamurti - and written by his longtime friend, Mary Lutyens, the biography, “The Years of Awakening” helps in not only understanding more fully why K left the Theosophical Society, but also why he stayed in it during his youth.
    Thus, even though he experienced extreme bliss and amazing “spiritual experiences” during his youth with the Theosophists, there was also a lot of obvious gobbledegook and contradiction within the leadership and seers who oversaw his upbringing.
    You see this a lot in other spiritual organizations that seek to awaken the Kundalini etc. in their adherents - they can get really dogmatic, abusive, and deny the obvious at times - even if one finds other aspects wonderful.
    I think the main thing to take away from his apparent categorical rejection of such would-be leaders and organizations is - for many of us - simply not to take them overly seriously, but not to hate them either (he didn’t).
    His friend, Aldous Huxley, for example, had a guru, and is famous for his accounts of his experiences with hallucinogenic drugs, but K never boxed his ears or punched him in the nose, nor verbally belittled him.😆😂 They got along beautifully.

    • @marinejulien5949
      @marinejulien5949 5 лет назад +1

      Can't agree more ; when reading 'Commentaries on Living', we cannot not reflect on the nature of our thoughts. Then, it's obvious that we cannot rely on them. So many doubts arise. No more argueing, just listening and observing.

  • @WrenIsPhoenix
    @WrenIsPhoenix 5 лет назад +4

    At 3:05, it sounds like he says blog and snap and that is creepy, 'cause neither of those things existed

  • @desanjosekristina5110
    @desanjosekristina5110 5 лет назад

    Because, you already experienced most of what their telling .

  • @nirbhaiverma2908
    @nirbhaiverma2908 3 года назад +2

    JK: reverse UNO

  • @tanvis4641
    @tanvis4641 4 года назад +1

    9:00

  • @ritesharora6032
    @ritesharora6032 5 лет назад +1

    What does he mean when he says "you don't spend infinitesimal (of energy we spend on earning money) of energy inwardly?

    • @mrnobodyz
      @mrnobodyz 5 лет назад

      ☝🏼 it’s a very simple and self explanatory sentence If you don’t mind me saying!!!

    • @ritesharora6032
      @ritesharora6032 5 лет назад

      @@mrnobodyz no its not

    • @ritesharora6032
      @ritesharora6032 5 лет назад

      @@mrnobodyz on one side, he is in not in favour of sitting for meditation, and other side he is saying this.

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 5 лет назад

      He means that you don't spend a fraction of the energy you spend on earning money on trying to understand ourselves. Of course, you will need to read or listen to other of his work to learn about what it means to work inwardly, which is not easy or straightforward.

    • @subbumani3720
      @subbumani3720 5 лет назад

      @@ritesharora6032 there is no way to realise truth without becoming absolute silence (meditative)...he is talking about perception when mind is full of thoughts and nonsense how can u perceive anything...this man should have given atleast few methods to turn inward but he says he is against organizations...people just gather for intellectual circus and he is very good at providing it...without hitting on their stupid prejudice or idealogies or religious nonsense and giving some methods to turn inward he just went on and on and on 70 long years...huge respect for him at the same time he is just stupid to think people will realise truth through intellectual circus...

  • @vancoppenollenicky
    @vancoppenollenicky 5 лет назад +2

    Dommage pas de traduction en Français

  • @manumaster1990
    @manumaster1990 5 лет назад

    :)

  • @Trip_mania
    @Trip_mania 2 года назад

    Basically he is saying that if his teachings don't work it's your fault for not doing it right. Classic. Ironically he says you should take responsibility and yet he is blaming you for the fact that his teachings don't work. I thought a great master would see the irony himself.
    Saying it slowly doesn't make it more profound.

  • @gentiantafa4619
    @gentiantafa4619 3 года назад

    🙏😄😁😅🤣💥🙃😉

  • @robelmekonnen1564
    @robelmekonnen1564 5 лет назад +2

    I know there's no such thing as a dumb question but this one's pretty dumb. Why seek knowledge if you're not going to apply the knowledge to your own life?

  • @surindersingh-uq4vl
    @surindersingh-uq4vl Год назад

    K's teachings have very little effect on people because he does not give them the dreams of heavens
    He has left no scope for people who do businesses on God and religion.
    And mostly people want comforts.

  • @abhijitsikder6578
    @abhijitsikder6578 2 года назад +1

    Talks never helps

  • @legalcenterchicago.c
    @legalcenterchicago.c 5 лет назад +1

    U are the problem, u are the trap. Lol, but true!

  • @imnotallergic
    @imnotallergic 2 года назад

    his talks are not teachings. if you think they are, you have no idea what he's talking about.

  • @GR0907
    @GR0907 5 лет назад

    Lol 🤣

  • @bhoot786
    @bhoot786 2 года назад

    ❤🙏

  • @manojupadhyay5632
    @manojupadhyay5632 3 года назад

    6:00